(11/24/2015) Presumption, Pride and Sin?

Today, reply is made to a familiar challenge that a person approve/disapprove of how GOD has responded to Adam, Satan, and sin.  The true people of GOD are to deal with divine law, operations of divinity, and sacred principles, rather than cultural fabrications, individual desires, personal opinions, and worldly traditions.  Their heart (i.e., breath, life essence, spirit) must engage the sacred heart of GOD.  By insisting that academic presentations and secular reasoning have the same or greater value than the holy writings, many continue in darkness, error, and spiritual confusion.  Consider again the following from the Bible, and the comments appearing below:  Isaiah 29:  16, King James Version (KJV):  16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter’s clay:  for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?  Also,  Matthew 15:  7-9, KJV:  7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,  8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.  Ezekiel 33:  31-33, KJV:  31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them:  for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.  32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument:  for they hear thy words, but they do them not.  33 And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “drummer man” (Level 1 with no points shown, a member since July 16, 2007) posted the following:


Does god's way of dealing with the rebellion and sin of Satan, Adam and Eve bother you? and how would you deal with them if you were god?


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Then answered the LORD unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said,  Gird up thy loins now like a man:  I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.  Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?  Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him?  Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty.  Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath:  and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.  Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.  Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.  Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.  (Job 40: 6-14, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Justified for Attacking The Bible? (06/28/2015); Correct in Only Your Mind? (05/04/2015); The Testing of Job? (10/06/2014); Knowing the Spirit is Inside? (10/07/2014); Satan Should Stand Trial? (02/16/2014); The Right Place to Get Knowledge? (02/17/2014); Confusion 2013 (01/13/2013); Why A “Spokesperson”? (01/14/2013)


“drummer man”, for mature Christian believers your question draws (we say, entices, seduces, tempts) others into thinking of themselves in a way that insults divinity.  The operations of presumption, pride and sin oppose the continued existence of divine law, of the divine Law Giver, and of the universe maintained through sacred law.  While sin is no thing created by GOD and contains no sacred matter (as does the living), sin may dominate awareness and self-will in created beings and living creatures.  The thought “if I were god” is forbidden in the sense that ones awareness and self-will are not to be turned away from acknowledging, reverencing, and serving GOD toward any exercise of authority, independence, and privilege that has not been granted by the Father through the Son and the Holy Spirit.  Even so, it is correct for believers to carefully examine the many facets of the accounts that come to us as sacred knowledge.

Correctly understood, the record of Creation, the fall of Adam, and the full range of holy writings must be seen as features within a closed system for consciousness of GOD that derive from operations of spirit, rather than operations of intellect, logic, philosophy, or science.  The holy writings provide a divine point of view, so to speak, showing the operations of divinity using thousands of events and thousands of lives over the course of thousands of years.  In the same way none may know and understand divinity as revealed through Jesus Christ without operations by GOD through spirit, none may assign value, criticize, or evaluate the process of Deity (we say, judge GOD), even when they have spirit and sacred truth.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  Human error characterizes our judgment; thus, many important points are overlooked as we consider the human predicament.  For example, (1) the single name “Adam” was used by the GODhead for both the male and female who existed as a single person; (2) there are multiple operations of GOD to reveal the character and nature of divinity to the living, and to proclaim divine sovereignty; (3) Adam and all living upon the earth are used as figures to correct and guide those of heaven; (4) divine law, judgment, and the figure of Satan are used to correct and guide the living both upon the earth and in heaven; and (5) as with the elimination of chaos and flux that appeared before heaven and earth were established, the elimination of sin requires permanent change that pertains to the entire universe, not merely to angels and mankind.

Given that many points in our routine conversations and exchanges are taken to be facts and proven truth that, in actuality, are assumptions relied upon in order to advance various considerations, correct acceptance of the holy writings demand balance, completeness, consistency, focus, maturity, and stability that only come by operation of the same Spirit that was at work in Creation.  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC