Today, reply is on birth and “the fruit of the womb” along with Christ as the true vine, and his followers as his branches. An important description of divine order among Christian believers says, first, that which is of the earth and natural, then, that which is of heaven and the spirit. The holy writings use human events and things in the material and natural world along with familiar and plain language to communicate regarding the spirit character, makeup, process and eternal purpose of GOD. Among the many analogies, figures, object lessons (parables), and types that appear, the created beings and living creatures of Creation are spoken of as plants fixed upon and joined to the earth in the same ways as corn, trees, and wheat. Life and mankind are depicted as a divine crop growing in the soil of the earth whose fruit is to ripen (become mature), and be harvested at the Advent of Jesus Christ (we also say, his appearing; the Rapture; the Second Coming). The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum who uses the ID “GRANNY NORINE” (Level 1 with 235 points, a member since May 16, 2014) posted the following:
What does John 15:1; 4 mean?
THE GOLDEN ARROW: And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. (Revelation 14: 14-16, King James Version, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: I Am The Vine (03/20/2018); Childbearing Pertains to Judgment? (02/23/2018); GOD Appearing As Christ (12/03/2017); Acorns Become Oak Trees? (02/09/2017); Plantings of the Lord (02/10/2017); His Birth Signals Rebirth (01/03/2017); Prayer not Enough? (07/12/2013); A Tree Falls To The South (07/13/2013)
“GRANNY NORINE”, here are some points you may find useful for a more complete understanding of the language used in these holy writings:
John 15: 1, King James Version (KJV): 1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
John 15: 4, KJV: 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
1. Christian believers are to acknowledge that their condition is the same as that for the “fruit of the womb.” Unborn babies must develop and begin to operate as having life while still within their mother’s womb cushioned, protected, and surrounded by birth fluid (many say, the water).
2. The fruit in a pumpkin or watermelon patch are connected to the life-giving soil through the tendrils of a soft, thin vine that can not bear or lift its own fruit because of their great size and weight.
3. Until its birth, the unborn child (doctors say, the embryo; the fetus) remains in the “patch”. Their limbs, organs, and tissues must appear; they must begin to process food within their own body, eliminate waste, age, and grow. They will not take their first breath of air until they are outside the body of the mother.
4. Until the child is built up, the major works of carrying blood and air throughout the young body (we say, breathing, respiration) and pumping by the heart (we say, circulation) are done for the child by their host, the mother. This is possible because they are attached to the mother through a soft, thin “vine” (doctors say, an umbilical cord).
5. The communication between mother and child also is carried out somewhat through the cord. Speech and thought by the mother may not be processed within the brain of the fetus, yet, nerve tissue data sets, impressions, and processing patterns within the mother can be transferred to the child.
6. By the signals they exchange, the process of the birth will begin wherein the child moves through the birth canal to leave the mother’s womb. Birth is accomplished by movements of both the child and the mother that should be in agreement (we say, rhythm). The one pair are to exist as joined, yet, two independent life forms. Thus, there is the cutting of the cord, and the separation we call “birth”.
There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, a “husbandman” is a farmer and the owner of a property; one who is joined (married?) as a caretaker and worker to land that may produce crops and fruits. “To abide” is to indwell; to be at home; use as ones place of residence. Where repentant sinners become joined to the fullness of divinity (we say, the GODhead; the Trinity; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit), through Jesus Christ they are accounted as the new creation by having become joined to his death, burial, and resurrection from the dead. Christ is called the early harvest and “firstfruit” from the dead. He is the “true vine,” for his fruit is salvation and eternal life.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
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BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
Washington, DC
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