The spirit nature and material substance of GODhead are considered again, today. A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “God The Grandpa” (Level 2 with 842 points, a member since May 26, 2014) labeled himself an atheist and attacked using the following:
Christians please explain the Trinity to me? i Don't get it. (read the body of the question please)?
i'm an Atheist, but i was educated jewish.
i want to at least understand what i don't believe in
Judaism has the 10 commandants.
the first one says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" that why Jews can't believe in a human being being a God.
Christians claim to follow the same 10 commandments, but they also believe Jesus, a human being is a God.
and you made up the trinity to explain how they can be one and the same. i just don't get how it works.
i know one of the basic tenants of Christianity that Jesus is both divine and human. (I learned that in a course on medieval Iconography) that Jesus always existed, even before he was born.
what i don't understand how they both one and the same, God and his Son. how is not just polytheism?
THE GOLDEN ARROW: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. (Romans 1: 16-25, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: GOD Known By Action Not Form? (03/18/2015); Divine Purpose? (01/08/2015); Catholics, Protestants and the Trinity? (10/12/2014); The Gift of Life Despised? (10/13/2014); Aspects of Divinity? (06/15/2014); Son of Adam and of GOD? (06/16/2014); Focus of Believers? (06/17/2014); Immutable GODhead (03/10/2014); Utterance is Spirit (09/08/2013); A Start for the Idea of GOD? (09/09/2013); GOD the X? (07/19/2013)
“God The Grandpa”, your question expresses the serious concern among many Jews, Islamic and Christian believers. Accept no answer to your question that you can not recognize as coming from GOD and the true revelation of divinity in the earth through divine action that has continuing and enduring effect, and that demonstrates unchanging sacred purpose. There can be no simple, one-line answer to clarify or dismiss the complexity of sacred knowledge and spiritual operations performed by an exalted deity who has made divinity known by using thousands of lives over the course of thousands of years. A focus upon divine law shared in a single covenant (that of Moses) is not adequate, for there are many covenants to be accounted for including that of Adam, Noah, Abraham, David, and Jesus Christ.
Here are a few points that may help release you from the spiritual confusion and sin that now have you bound:
(1.) The holy writings collected and presented as the Bible accurately describe the origins of the mechanical and natural processes for the existence, reproduction and continuation of material and spiritual created beings and living creatures, their spheres of life (e.g., earth, heaven, the sea, the universe), and the terms for their duration (mortality or immortality). Presently, only GOD is immortal; and the revelation of GOD uses the frameworks of space and time unfolding through discrete events for the benefit of finite beings. Any description of GOD not supplied by divinity (such as that given Eve by the serpent) is to be regarded as a lie (we say, blasphemy).
(2.) Every believer must accept that GOD is a spirit who has emanated material objects endowing some with life (e.g., angels, animals, humans, sacred beasts in heaven, the moon, the planets, the stars). The substance and makeup of Deity is completely spirit in terms of how it functions and what it may accomplish. Thus, such ideas as a life time, possibility and power must be spoken of with meanings and values very different from those for considering carnal beings (those having flesh and bone).
(3.) Discernment (ability to use ones own spirit content to recognize and respond to spirit content within events, messages, other persons, etc.) permits an understanding of divinity that comes by what we would call “synchronization”, whereby the living are in accord, concurrence, harmony, and oneness with divinity. GOD is the only source of existence, life, and divine spirit. By appearing incarnate (assuming flesh and blood) as Jesus Christ, new provisions are in place possible only through divinity whereby the animal and human nature of mankind are to be transformed. Aspects of the divine nature now are to appear and become perfected (we say mature, ripe) upon the earth. Included are faith, forbearance, gratitude, holiness, humility, longsuffering, love, meekness, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin.
(4.) Sin and wickedness are not created by GOD, and result from awareness and self-will becoming dominated by corruption (we say, arbitrary, unnecessary, unwanted change; evil); decay; defilement; failure to correctly perform necessary self-correction, self-maintenance, and self-nourishment; loss of divine content; and irreversible rot.
(5.) Christian believers trust that the fullness of Deity (we say, the GODhead) has appeared through the distinct operations to accomplish multiple goals that transcend the abilities of all finite creatures. Included are creation from void, birth, death, judgment, eternal condemnation, atonement, forgiveness, peace, rebirth, repentance from sin, resurrection, sanctification, and the final elimination of sin. Such tools as emotions, intellect, logic, mathematics, philosophy and science accomplish nothing until used by the living who have guidance from GOD.
There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually understood. For example, (6.) Many errors have resulted from the “good intentions” of men claiming authority and duty to erase idolatry, punish false worship, and maintain the purity of belief among mankind. Yet, these have repeatedly shown themselves to be caught in the throes of pride and self-promotion. They are found to be in no direct, intimate or personal relationship with divinity continued through communion and divine promise with praise, prayer, prophecy, and living sacrifice (“the dead praise not God”). The false agents from God rarely acknowledge the intangible aspects of divinity such as balance, completeness, immutability, perfection, person, presence, and unity without sameness. Apart from such revealed truth as the Spirit at Creation, Christ at the Cross, and the body of prophecy proclaiming the Father, there is no clear or correct grasp upon the actual essence who is GOD, who is not made of any material substance having dimension that can be measured such as a cloud, fog, mist, or smoke.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith. Love has spoken.
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
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