(03/14/2019) Meaning of "Father, forgive"

Today, the reply considers possible meanings for the words Jesus Christ spoke from the cross, and other ways he could have pleaded that mankind might receive atonement, forgiveness, sacred knowledge, and salvation. Because the divine process of speech and utterance is actually one of breath and spirit joining created beings and living creatures to the immortal, invisible Creator, readers of the Bible apprehending imparted substance from the makeup of divinity should always come into view. Throughout the holy writings, praises, prayers and statements appear that are simple, yet, they are profound, for they are appearances of the active presence who is GOD. While a discrete message or request may be identified, the operation of Spirit is broad and diffuse. A single word may convey multiple meanings, and serve as the seed for multiple effects and inseparable understandings. One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile is shown) posted the following:

According to Christians, Jesus says "forgive them father, for they know not what they do"?

So how could Christians claim that atheists, or people of other faiths, will be punished under Christian law, when the sacrificed one included those who didn't know they were in the wrong??

THE GOLDEN ARROW: It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. (John 6: 63, King James Version, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Not By Bread Only (02/22/2019); Faith Throughout the Scriptures? (01/04/2019); The Mystery of GODhead (10/21/2018); On Selecting Scripture Verses (04/11/2018); The Divinity of “Word” (01/26/2018); Holy Writings and Spirit? (12/16/2016); Books Having Sacred Knowledge? (10/25/2016); Divine Meanings and Values? (03/31/2016)

“Anonymous”, among mature Christian believers the meaning of “Father forgive them” is not the same as “father approve them,” “Father, cancel the sacred process of judgment against them that is essential to divine existence,” or “Father, make no feeling or thinking response to the behavior of imperfect creatures.” Other plain words that convey the same direction, focus, and intent include:

1. “Father, endow them with sacred knowledge along with their secular knowledge, and grant them better tools having the authority and power of divine content, rather than such finite tools as intellect, logic, philosophy, science, technology and human willpower.

2. Father I ask that you will continue this peculiar revelation of divine fullness (we also say, Deity; the Godhead; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit) whereby invisible, unseen spirit is made knowable, known, accessible, and approachable.

3. Father, in spite of error, sin and wickedness among the living, please continue to fulfill and perform the immutable, unchanging covenants, events and divine order that has been proclaimed, promised and prophesied for the benefit of all created beings and living creatures.

4. Father, rather than display our full wrath against sin, let us be in accord and impart to mankind inseparable aspects of our own character, makeup and substance such as faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, righteousness, and wisdom.”

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 5. “Father, in the same way we have made a perpetual covenant for Adam, Abraham and Moses that continues through divine prerogative, eternal purpose, sacred law and the sovereign will of GOD, rather than relying upon the finite deeds and works of mankind, let us establish a new testament in my blood to accomplish atonement, mercy in judgment, rebirth, redemption and the genuine salvation that will end mortality, and provide eternal life.”) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC