The quality of life for mankind and life from GOD through Jesus Christ are topics, today. Also, there is more on whether GOD is angry against mankind for the crucifixion of Jesus. A writer at “Yahoo! Answers India” using the ID “Jesus is the reason for the season 7” (Level 3 with 1,823 points, a member since 23 July 2012) posted the following originally asked on Yahoo Answers Canada:
Christ Jesus came so we could have life, why?
THE BATTLE AXE: GOD Angry With Us? (12/08/2013)—Mortals everywhere should account it good news that the love of GOD was not broken off or extinguished when Jesus appeared upon the cross in all the filthiness and vileness of human sin from the time of Adam’s transgression as well as the future sins that would be committed by other people like you and me. Jesus was forced by his suffering to cry out, Why hast thou forsaken me! Even so, the Son of the Highest was not destroyed for all eternity by the unquenchable fire of the Father’s contempt, scorn and wrath against sin. In a supreme demonstration of divine love to all created beings and living creatures, Jesus endured death as any mortal man, and was buried. Far from despised by GOD or men, the Savior was then embraced as one forgiven, and restored to those prepared to receive a man from the dead. These served as witnesses to the glory and love of the Father who raised him from the dead, to the beauty and wonder of his ascension, and to the outpouring of gifts from the Holy Spirit. (See Acts 1: 1-14, 1st Corinthians 15: 1-8 and Ephesians 2: 1-8, KJV.) Believers are to understand that the things of Christ dying upon the cross pertain to making known the reality that GOD is pure divinity, and contains and emanates consciousness, life, and person. Divine love, that otherwise would be totally unknown and unseen in the earth as a material and social realm, is revealed through sacred operations that include acceptance of condemnation and death by one who is guiltless; petitions for and proclamations of forgiveness on behalf of the guilty; provisions for atonement, rebirth, resurrection, and sanctification of the guilty; and the transformation of death into a tool for the recovery of mankind from sin. As shown in the account of Abraham and Isaac at Mount Moriah, there are depictions of surpassing love in the Son as well as in the Father: uninterrupted affection, covenant, faith, obedience, purpose, respect, and trust. For GOD there is no being “tired out,” worn out, or quitting in frustration because finite created beings and living creatures are unable to fulfill their own needs for salvation, or to overcome sin and weakness without divine assistance. (See Genesis 22: 1-19, Romans 5: 6-11, John 14: 6, 1st John 4: 7-15 and Revelation 1: 4-6, KJV.)
THE GOLDEN ARROW: When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus. And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither? Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat. Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6: 24-40, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Illusion? (04/25/2013); Not of Legal Age? (04/26/2013)
Relying upon carnal, material and social tools, the Gospel of divine love and salvation in Jesus Christ is always very challenging and difficult to fully understand. Here are a few points you and your readers may consider, and find helpful:
(1.) Where human consciousness would center entirely upon ones own features (e.g., appetite, imagination, intellect, sense experience, thoughts), ones own body parts, and ones own internal process (we say, introspection), mankind would be cut-off from, isolated, and vulnerable to his living context and environment. Failing to rightly “see”, man would be repeatedly surprised and suddenly overwhelmed by other living creatures and forces that are also aspects of full existence.
(2.) Were human life to center entirely upon interaction with its material context and physical environment (that includes other living species), the biosphere would dominate awareness along with all development and experience through such factors as climate; availability of food, light, shelter and water; and by the presence of destroyers, parasites, predators, vermin, and wasters.
(3.) Because mankind is capable of operating without awareness of its full capacity and denying the spirit dimensions for human existence, the quality of life for mankind has continued to lessen and weaken since Creation. For there to be more than animal existence that centers in conflict, indulgence, self, and mechanical processes of body and mind, mankind must accept the embrace of GOD, our Creator.
There is far more to be said, reasonably shared, and spiritually understood. (For example, (4.) The process and relationship of GOD with all created beings and living creatures is to be understood as love, for the operations and presence of GOD generates benefit, comfort, correction, guidance, healing, meaningful purpose, and support of life. The nonliving, nonmaterial, persistent influence of sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, of eternal person, and all Creation. Sin is self-destructive, yet, may dominate awareness and self-will; and is the greatest threat to continued being for mankind. Through the ministry of Jesus Christ, mankind is released and shielded from sin.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith. Jesus will return.
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
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Wednesday, April 17, 2013
(04/17/2013) How To Accept Bible Truth?
Accepting biblical truth is the topic, today, and there is more on why GOD is concerned for humankind. The “Yahoo! Answers“ writer using ID “?” (Level 3 with 2,140 points, a member since August 17, 2012) posted the following:
How am I supposed to accept this in the Bible?
The Bible says that God eternally punishes those who do not believe him.*
Some will say, “no, it’s the devil punishing, not God. “
However, that is untrue.
In Revelations, it clearly states that God will destroy Hell.**
Yet, even after he destroys Hell, he just throws it and everyone in it into another place called the Lake of Fire.***
When I first heard this, I thought that maybe the Lake of Fire was like a place where it destroys your soul, because it’s the “second death,” therefor, you would be at peace and not in torment anymore.
But if you actually read the whole chapter, the Lake of Fire is no different from Hell. It is, again, a place of eternal torment and punishment.****
I cannot understand how God, not Satan, because God has also destroyed Satan at this point, would willingly punish people eternally simply for not believing in him.
That’s just screwed up I can find no excuse for it.
* = “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” – Matthew 25:46
** = “And death and hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.” – Revelations 20:14
*** = “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” – revelations 20:15
**** = “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” – Revelation 20:10
Additional Details
>”truly Hell is too good for those who have done such an abomination and possess such attitudes that you are expressing.”
So saying that we should not eternally torture people who may have never even heard the gospel in the first place and may have lived really good lives is an “abomination”?
wat?
THE BATTLE AXE: Why Would GOD Worry About Us? (04/16/2013)—(5.) Mankind remains an aspect of full divine person, and will never be completely cast away and rejected by GOD. The imparted, indwelling Spirit from GOD imparts life, person, and other aspects of being. This is also demonstrated through the appearance of GOD in human flesh as Jesus of Nazareth. See Luke 24: 36-48, Acts 1: 6-11 and Ephesians 5: 30, KJV. (6.) Despite the ministry of GOD upon the earth and from the heavens, mankind continues to be unpredictable and unresponsive to the concessions, and provisions for reconciliation. Many continue to scorn divine provisions, including compassion, forgiveness, longsuffering and mercy. See again Deuteronomy 31: 24-29, 2nd Chronicles 24: 17-20, Isaiah 48: 1-11, Zechariah 7: 8-14 and Acts 7: 51, KJV.
THE GOLDEN ARROW: Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. (Matthew 21: 33-44, King James Version)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: A Guide to Salvation? (04/10/2013); Faith, Language and “Mystery” (04/11/2013); GOD Knows Tomorrow (04/12/2013); What to Take Literally (03/11/2013); My Sheep Hear My Voice (03/08/2013); Wanting To Have Our Way (03/09/2013); Understanding Hell (01/09/2013); The Golden Age? (01/10/2013); The “Lake of Mercy” (11/03/2012); Seeking and Being Sought (11/04/2012)
You (and all other created beings and living creatures) are supposed to accept it as a demonstration of the righteousness of GOD, by putting away your exaggerated ideas of your own importance, and acknowledging the Divine Person with humility and respect. You must challenge your apparent assumption that there is innocence for all others (like your own), such that none are now, or ever will be, deserving of severe punishment and termination of their existence. Although you may be a man of peace, had you, today, an enemy repeatedly attacking your family and home behind your back, contrary to all law enforcement efforts, deceiving, lying, violating every agreement from meetings to reason together, etc., etc., etc. you might well seek to save the lives of loved ones by trying to physically end all threat, and “removing the possibility for further dispute.”
It is the work of sin to deny, destroy and undo divine law, the integrity of created beings and living creatures, and the existence of Divine Person. Thus, it is also the work of the Creator to eliminate sin, recover all that have been tainted by sin, and establish the truth that sin will never rise again within the universe of GOD. Sacred operations on a divine scale must come into view. Included are birth, death, Incarnation, impartial yet thorough judgment, rebirth, repentance, resurrection, and sanctification.
There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, through the ministry of Jesus Christ, believers are granted a “divine point of view,” so to speak, with insights regarding sacred purposes. The Scriptures function the same way, granting believers sacred insights from thousands of human lives over the course of thousands of human events. Accepting GOD’s view becomes much easier once “born again” from divine DNA, that is, after having received his Holy Spirit. Ones anger on behalf of mankind, and their voice as spokesperson, prophet, and Champion of Compassion for humanity then takes on its correct weight, and eternal value.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
How am I supposed to accept this in the Bible?
The Bible says that God eternally punishes those who do not believe him.*
Some will say, “no, it’s the devil punishing, not God. “
However, that is untrue.
In Revelations, it clearly states that God will destroy Hell.**
Yet, even after he destroys Hell, he just throws it and everyone in it into another place called the Lake of Fire.***
When I first heard this, I thought that maybe the Lake of Fire was like a place where it destroys your soul, because it’s the “second death,” therefor, you would be at peace and not in torment anymore.
But if you actually read the whole chapter, the Lake of Fire is no different from Hell. It is, again, a place of eternal torment and punishment.****
I cannot understand how God, not Satan, because God has also destroyed Satan at this point, would willingly punish people eternally simply for not believing in him.
That’s just screwed up I can find no excuse for it.
* = “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” – Matthew 25:46
** = “And death and hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.” – Revelations 20:14
*** = “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” – revelations 20:15
**** = “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” – Revelation 20:10
Additional Details
>”truly Hell is too good for those who have done such an abomination and possess such attitudes that you are expressing.”
So saying that we should not eternally torture people who may have never even heard the gospel in the first place and may have lived really good lives is an “abomination”?
wat?
THE BATTLE AXE: Why Would GOD Worry About Us? (04/16/2013)—(5.) Mankind remains an aspect of full divine person, and will never be completely cast away and rejected by GOD. The imparted, indwelling Spirit from GOD imparts life, person, and other aspects of being. This is also demonstrated through the appearance of GOD in human flesh as Jesus of Nazareth. See Luke 24: 36-48, Acts 1: 6-11 and Ephesians 5: 30, KJV. (6.) Despite the ministry of GOD upon the earth and from the heavens, mankind continues to be unpredictable and unresponsive to the concessions, and provisions for reconciliation. Many continue to scorn divine provisions, including compassion, forgiveness, longsuffering and mercy. See again Deuteronomy 31: 24-29, 2nd Chronicles 24: 17-20, Isaiah 48: 1-11, Zechariah 7: 8-14 and Acts 7: 51, KJV.
THE GOLDEN ARROW: Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. (Matthew 21: 33-44, King James Version)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: A Guide to Salvation? (04/10/2013); Faith, Language and “Mystery” (04/11/2013); GOD Knows Tomorrow (04/12/2013); What to Take Literally (03/11/2013); My Sheep Hear My Voice (03/08/2013); Wanting To Have Our Way (03/09/2013); Understanding Hell (01/09/2013); The Golden Age? (01/10/2013); The “Lake of Mercy” (11/03/2012); Seeking and Being Sought (11/04/2012)
You (and all other created beings and living creatures) are supposed to accept it as a demonstration of the righteousness of GOD, by putting away your exaggerated ideas of your own importance, and acknowledging the Divine Person with humility and respect. You must challenge your apparent assumption that there is innocence for all others (like your own), such that none are now, or ever will be, deserving of severe punishment and termination of their existence. Although you may be a man of peace, had you, today, an enemy repeatedly attacking your family and home behind your back, contrary to all law enforcement efforts, deceiving, lying, violating every agreement from meetings to reason together, etc., etc., etc. you might well seek to save the lives of loved ones by trying to physically end all threat, and “removing the possibility for further dispute.”
It is the work of sin to deny, destroy and undo divine law, the integrity of created beings and living creatures, and the existence of Divine Person. Thus, it is also the work of the Creator to eliminate sin, recover all that have been tainted by sin, and establish the truth that sin will never rise again within the universe of GOD. Sacred operations on a divine scale must come into view. Included are birth, death, Incarnation, impartial yet thorough judgment, rebirth, repentance, resurrection, and sanctification.
There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, through the ministry of Jesus Christ, believers are granted a “divine point of view,” so to speak, with insights regarding sacred purposes. The Scriptures function the same way, granting believers sacred insights from thousands of human lives over the course of thousands of human events. Accepting GOD’s view becomes much easier once “born again” from divine DNA, that is, after having received his Holy Spirit. Ones anger on behalf of mankind, and their voice as spokesperson, prophet, and Champion of Compassion for humanity then takes on its correct weight, and eternal value.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
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