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Thursday, December 12, 2019

(12/12/2019) A Commitment To Life




Today, reply is on the commitment to his own existence and life that mankind is to make in response to Jesus Christ who appears as Creator, Redeemer, Savior, and Judge. While the process of life features continuing conflict between the flesh and the Spirit, the living are to acknowledge their own body as a temple home for life essence imparted from GOD, and respect gatherings of those sharing faith as a divinely provided habitation for the spirit. It is written: Ephesians 2: 18-22, King James Version (KJV): 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion & Spirituality using the ID “Stop-and-frisk this, Bloomberg!” (Level 4 with 1,530 points) posted the following:



Why do religious people live their lives so cautiously? ?
By that I mean, if you believe in God and afterlife wouldn't you live as ethically reckless as possible to facilitate your early demise? I'm an atheist and since I know this is the only life I get I tend to want to prevent my death. If I believed in a god and heaven I would not wear my seat belt for example since I would prefer eternal life in heaven. Do I make any sense? 😂



THE GOLDEN ARROW: For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lords. For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. (Romans 14: 7-9, KJV)



THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Disciples and “Little Christs” (11/05/2019); One Body, Many Members (10/17/2019); Present With The Lord (08/05/2019); The Gift Of GOD (10/15/2018); A Question On Suicide (11/30/2017); Suddenly Absent, Suddenly Present? (03/31/2013); A Family Affair? (04/01/2013)



Stop-and-frisk this, Bloomberg!”, you make sense just as the Apostle Paul, who expressed being in conflict about continuing to serve on the earth, or going to be with the Lord. It remains that, Christian belief is focused on commitment and living as a companion to immortal, incorruptible, invisible divinity, rather than death; and is focused on performing duty and unselfish service, rather than pleasure and self-promotion. Sinners who become part of the new creation of GOD through Jesus Christ must become permanently changed and transformed through operations of the Holy Spirit (we say, they must become “born again” and “grow up again”). As developing believers, all are to become mature/ripe while on the earth, and will be harvested by the Lord at his coming. Christian believers are to resemble, reflect, and reveal the image of GOD, and the likeness of Jesus Christ through their lifestyles and daily routines. All are granted benefits, opportunities, possibilities, and privileges on a divine scale for they receive within their consciousness and self-will (willpower) inseparable aspects of the divine makeup. Included are balance, completeness, faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, personhood, wisdom, and wrath against sin. As vessels of divine spirit content (sacred DNA, so to speak), Christians are the offspring of GOD and those in fellowship with divinity. Believers will be held accountable for the grace and freely given gifts bestowed on them, and are to operate acknowledging sacred law, divine prerogative, eternal purpose, and the sovereign will of GOD. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible, and a selection from the music ministry of John Michael Talbot:

(1.) 2nd Corinthians 5: 1-10, King James Version (KJV): 1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. 5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit. 6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

(2.) Philippians 3: 7-14, KJV: 7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. 8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. 12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. 13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

(3.) Romans 8: 5-9, KJV: 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended (for example, (4.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGbb1ry1Hoo.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.


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Monday, August 5, 2019

(08/05/2019) Present With The Lord





Today, reply is on conflicts that regularly appear within the course of Christian ministry, language from the Scriptures, and personal thoughts from the Apostle Paul. In sharing reports of his present condition and the challenges he was facing as a servant of Jesus Christ, Paul confessed that he now was experiencing the holy boldness both to face a martyrs death, and to appear in tribunal before the judgment seat of Christ. A writer in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “jane” (Level 1 with 1 point, a member since May 15, 2019) posted the following:



What the Bible meaning Absent from the body and to be present with the Lord ?



THE GOLDEN ARROW: I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. (Romans 12: 1-3, King James Version, KJV)



THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Prophets After Jesus Christ? (06/04/2019); Why Paul Observed Tradition (07/10/2018); A Threat Against Judaism (07/17/2017); A True Apostle? (09/20/2015); Saul of Tarsus (03/26/2014); The Nature of Scripture (03/27/2014); Suddenly Absent, Suddenly Present (03/31/2013); A Family Affair? (04/01/2013)



jane”, many Christian believers understand the language “present with the Lord” is describing when a believer is received by the Lord through death and final judgment to continue dwelling and servicing divinity within the celestial precincts, courts, and mansions of heaven. Those fully present with the Lord are believed in the same relationship with GOD, the same new flesh, and the same new life through resurrection as the Lord Jesus. To be “absent from the body” is understood as no longer being alive in flesh on the earth; and also means to no longer be available to minister to the body of Christ (i.e., the church; the community of believers) through devices that are carnal, material, physical, and social. In two of his epistles, the Apostle Paul expresses a sense of conflict and uncertainty about continuing his own service to the church that has included multiple confrontations with mobs, imprisonment, scourging, and suffering. On the one hand, Paul does not desire death; he is preferring to be with Jesus in the direct presence of GOD the Father, and desires to perform higher, holier works guided by Jesus, the divine High Priest. On the other hand, Paul understands the peculiar needs of the church demand that he and others continue at the various works they have been given through the Holy Ghost; and the Apostle continues to exhort the brethren to commitment, determination, and zeal. There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, Philippians 1: 20-30, King James Version (KJV): 20 According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death. 21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. 23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: 24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. 25 And having this confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of faith; 26 That your rejoicing may be more abundant in Jesus Christ for me by my coming to you again. 27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel; 28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God. 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; 30 Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.


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Sunday, March 31, 2013

(03/31/2013) Suddenly Absent, Suddenly Present?

Many are celebrating what is called “Easter” and “Resurrection Sunday”, today. Here are some missing links for our discussions of Advent, judgment and resurrection from the dead. May all be blessed.


      In a recent television broadcast Dr. Charles F. Stanley provided a teaching on death, the state of the dead, and the resurrection (Right Thinking About Death and Resurrection, March 24, 2013). I was disappointed and disturbed by what seemed an undue emphasis upon a phrase from the Apostle Paul “absent from the body, present with the Lord” (see 1st Corinthians 5: 1-10, Philippians 1: 21-24 and 3: 20-21, KJV). Dr. Stanley seemed to be teaching that, at death, ones spirit is already perfected, and therefore, is immediately transferred into the divine presence. (As children we suspected such teaching, because of its “magical” aspect, and called it “abracadabra” and “presto change-o”.) 
 
      Dr. Stanley did not seem to make a clear and complete statement describing the separation of spirit and body at death, detailing the interaction of the spirit and Christ, or denying the resurrection of the physical body. However, in not addressing those points, he heavily suggested that those doctrines of the Bible are no longer relevant (see 1st Corinthians 15: 50-54 and 1st Thessalonians 4: 13-18, KJV). Alarmed for the sake of the many viewers who would be corrupted and mislead by what appeared to be a gross error in reasoning, I tried to contact Dr. Stanley. (See Romans 8: 22-24 and 2nd Timothy 2: 15-19, KJV.)

      I submitted a question to “Ask Dr. Stanley” at the In Touch Ministries Internet site asking for comment on the doctrine of two resurrections in the light of “absent/present” (Acts 24: 14-15, KJV). I was stunned at the thought, Where the righteous dead are already in the presence of the Lord, there is no need for their resurrection at the harvesting of the earth. Surely, this teaching cancels the Second Coming! I was discouraged from expecting any response through what seemed an automated reply that there is so great a backlog, etc. I then invited Dr. Stanley to consider some of the ideas from the sacred writings blog, THE WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD.

      Turning to the Lord Jesus, I’ve found the following are points he would have me share for all our further understanding:

(1.) Resurrection and sanctification are not yet complete for the souls under the altar in heaven. The holy altar—that will itself be done away and no longer exist when the Temple in the heavens is replaced by the presence of the Father and the Son—may be thought of as a temporary body, “house” and shelter of these spirits. Also, in the cleansing of the altar by the blood of Jesus, these are being further perfected (Revelation 6: 8-10, KJV).
 
(2.) The spirits of David, Moses and Elijah (who appeared at the transfiguration of Jesus), and others are now with Christ; however, their corrupted, physical bodies are yet awaiting resurrection (see Acts 2: 29-32, KJV). 
 
(3.) Only the living reside in heaven, there are no “dead” there. The transformation of the living through resurrection of the body pertains to the flesh, not the spirit. (Matthew 22: 32, Mark 12: 26-27 and Luke 20: 38, KJV).
 
(4.) Our hopes of perfected spirit and renewed human experience in the earth are answered through baptism, rebirth, regeneration and sanctification. Our hope of perfected bodies, transformation to be incorruptible and immortal, are answered through the Advent of Christ (Romans 6: 4-6, 1st Corinthians 15: 12-23, KJV).
 
(5.) Resurrection of the body, then, pertains less to the perfecting of ones spirit being, and more to ones wholeness when appearing in judgment regarding the deeds done in the body (1st Corinthians 5: 10, John 5: 28-29, Jude 1: 14-15, 2nd Corinthians 3: 9-15 and Revelation 20: 4-6, KJV).
 
      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (6.) the judgment of deeds and rewards for the righteous follows both the second resurrection with judgment of the wicked as well as consignment of the unrighteous to the second death. Only those incorruptible and immortal participate in what may be called the “third judgment.”) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.


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