The Scriptures and the unchanging process of GOD are topics, today. Also, there is more on Christian belief having a guarantee of heaven for Jews. The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “riley” (Level 1 with 189 points, a member since March 19, 2014) posted the following:
Do Christians really believe the bible hasn't been changed?
There are 25,000 different versions of the bible world wide, none that agree with each other. There are 212 in English alone. But Christians say the bible has never been changed. Sigh. Another reason Christianity is false.
THE BATTLE AXE: A Guarantee of Heaven? (03/22/2014)—(4.) In the same way there are many, today, who say they are “non-practicing Catholics” (i.e., nominal believers; Catholics in name only), there have always been those who are “cultural Jews,” “non-religious Jews,” and “secular Jews” who deny being in covenant with GOD, and insist there is no divine inheritance. Such believers despise the grace of GOD, and so cancel all possibility that they too may receive communion, divine gifts, and the experience of fellowship in heaven. Mankind first identified promises from GOD while listening as the Creator rebuked the serpent in the Garden of Eden. Divine intent and purpose were revealed that further established destiny and prophecy for those upon the earth. For both Christians and Jews, the word of GOD is absolutely true, and unchanging. Yet, what they embrace as guarantees for heaven are not totally dependent upon the process of GOD, because spirit and flesh must be in agreement and congruence. Consider again 1st Samuel 2: 30, Psalms 34: 17-19, Psalms 51: 6-17, Isaiah 45: 16-18, Isaiah 57: 12-21, John 6: 51-66, Romans 2: 28-29, Romans 10: 1-4, 2nd Timothy 3: 1-5 and Hebrews 10: 16-29, KJV.
THE GOLDEN ARROW: 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. (Matthew 22: 29, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Immutable GODhead (03/10/2014); The Right Place to Get Knowledge (02/17/2014); Arguing Against the Bible in Church? (02/18/2014); Snake Handling? (02/19/2014); Why Bother to Read? (10/31/2013); GOD Speaking Through Songs? (11/01/2013); What to Take Literally (03/11/2013); A GOD of War? (03/12/2013); A Text for Lives Today? (11/25/2012); Pornography from the Bible? (11/26/2012)
“Riley”, I am sure an expert on the Bible like yourself will agree that those who want to denounce Christianity as false usually have not considered the following points:
(1.) An unchanging process of GOD that was used to establish Creation is continued and repeated in other divine operations such as covenant, judgment, revelation, salvation, and sanctification. Existence is established for created beings and living creatures through divine acts and sacred events that would remain otherwise unknown except through further provisions by divinity.
(2.) No one lacking faith (even yourself) will ever comprehend how the Bible exists as a divine tool that conveys and imparts the same spirit matter that continues to be in Jesus Christ. Believers make the connect because they receive various inseparable aspects of divinity (where one appears, all appear). Included are discernment, faith, focus, holiness, forgiveness, longsuffering, wisdom, and wrath against sin. For those so anointed and endowed, the holy writings are intimate and organic (we say, privileged and alive); and are not merely a mess of paper pages.
There is a lot more to be said, correctly applied, thoroughly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (3.) GOD is an eternal and unchanging spirit who has put forth created beings and living creatures along with the aspects of their continuity, their reproduction, their sphere of existence, and the mechanisms for their termination. Unlike the angels, who are neither mortal nor immortal, mankind is designed to acquire knowledge of truth through experiences of change and diversity (we say, spiritual growth). Of course, multiple customs, languages, and traditions surround the Bible; and mature Christian believers ignore all that. Salvation comes only by the Spirit of Truth that must be discovered within ones own core.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ephesians 6: 10-12, KJV)
THE BLACK PHOENIX
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Sunday, March 23, 2014
Tuesday, March 18, 2014
(03/18/2014) Unclear Scriptures?
Making sense of differences among translations and versions of the Bible is the topic, today. Also, there is more on greater divine effort to reach nonbelievers. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “brad” (Level 1 with 90 points, a member since March 17, 2014) posted the following:
Confusing Bible verse?
In john 7:24 (NLT) it says: "Look beneath the surface so you can judge correctly.”
In the same verse in the King James Version it says: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment"
I have an NLT and it's mostly great, but what the heck is with this extremely vague passages like this one?
It makes no sense..
THE BATTLE AXE: GOD to “Try Harder”? (03/17/2014)—(5.) Nothing in all the history, or future of mankind can surpass the accomplishment of salvation and eternal life through Jesus Christ. It is not that GOD must change; sinners must undergo change (called repentance) that is only accomplished through operations of GOD. The truth never changes, however, for created beings and living creatures, acceptance, discernment, obedience, and understanding of truth may change. GOD is a living entity whose makeup is entirely of spirit matter that cannot be apprehended and known by created beings and living creatures as they rely upon material and physical objects, or repetitive natural processes not having awareness that is focused and shaped to continuously acknowledge spirit substance. The active presence of GOD is revealed and shown through sacred events and operations carried out using appearances of divinity as an incarnate, sovereign agent (we say, Jesus, the Son of GOD), and a dynamic essence (we say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth). As eternal, fixed, and permanent truth, the revelation of GOD is immutable, and will not change. Saying this another way: GOD’s will, and GOD’s way are complete, established, and finished. For the earth, there are yet things proclaimed, promised, and prophesied that have not come to pass, that are now going forward in the continual process of GOD. Such events as the harvesting of believers from the earth, and the resurrection of the wicked for judgment will certainly take the nonbeliever to “new heights.” However, those elements go beyond salvation of sinners, and speak to concluding and resolving the full mystery of GOD. Salvation requires agreement and correspondence of both flesh and spirit, and only results when consciousness and self-will in the living (we say, attention, effort, and willpower) are properly directed to GOD. Consider again Isaiah 55: 6-13, Romans 10: 2-4, and Acts 16: 25-34, King James Version.
THE GOLDEN ARROW: And Samuel did that which the LORD spake, and came to Bethlehem. And the elders of the town trembled at his coming, and said, Comest thou peaceably? And he said, Peaceably: I am come to sacrifice unto the LORD: sanctify yourselves, and come with me to the sacrifice. And he sanctified Jesse and his sons, and called them to the sacrifice. And it came to pass, when they were come, that he looked on Eliab, and said, Surely the LORD’S anointed is before him. But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart. Then Jesse called Abinadab, and made him pass before Samuel. And he said, Neither hath the LORD chosen this. Then Jesse made Shammah to pass by. And he said, Neither hath the LORD chosen this. Again, Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before Samuel. And Samuel said unto Jesse, The LORD hath not chosen these. And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all thy children? And he said, There remaineth yet the youngest, and, behold, he keepeth the sheep. And Samuel said unto Jesse, Send and fetch him: for we will not sit down till he come hither. And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he. Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the Spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah. (1st Samuel 16: 4-13, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: The Right Place to Get Knowledge (02/17/2014); Arguing Against the Bible in Church? (02/18/2014); Lower-case or Capital? (01/31/2014); Sprinkled, Immersed, Named? (02/01/2014); Why Bother to Read? (10/31/2013); GOD Speaking Through Songs? (11/01/2013); Words Spoken By GOD? (06/05/2013); Teachings on Judgment (06/06/2013); What to Take Literally (03/11/2013); A GOD of War? (03/12/2013)
“brad”, for Christian believers, who have submitted to GOD through baptism (i.e., death of their inborn spirit nature, and rebirth having divine DNA), learning from the Bible requires multiple readings, and many gradual shifts of ones understanding. In this sense, learning Scripture is a lifetime experience like getting to know a totally different language and culture.
The holy writings are themselves spirit matter, and must add to, refresh, and make visible otherwise hidden spirit matter contained within believers. The aspect directed to our intellect is “the tip of the iceberg” so to speak. For we are now vessels containing divinity.
Bible accounts, historical narratives, parables, and proverbs are not anecdotes, fictions or stories intended for amusement and entertainment. When believers use multiple translations and versions of Scripture for their studies, they must be prepared to make determinations of application, meaning, and truth-value on the basis of agreement and consistency with revealed divine operations, eternal purpose, and sacred practice.
Certainly, there is a lot more to be said, correctly applied, thoroughly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, salvation for the living results by interactions of flesh and divine spirit. High things of GOD are displayed and imparted in figures, and terms that may be easily recognized among those upon the earth, no matter what climate, culture, or language group the are in. Common sense, then, is usually enough to clarify and explain many issues; and a reader need only be patient. More difficult obstacles and problems are overcome through continued fellowship with mature believers, further reflection, prayer, and continued study.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ’s, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ’s, even so are we Christ’s. (2nd Corinthians 10: 7, KJV)
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
Confusing Bible verse?
In john 7:24 (NLT) it says: "Look beneath the surface so you can judge correctly.”
In the same verse in the King James Version it says: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment"
I have an NLT and it's mostly great, but what the heck is with this extremely vague passages like this one?
It makes no sense..
THE BATTLE AXE: GOD to “Try Harder”? (03/17/2014)—(5.) Nothing in all the history, or future of mankind can surpass the accomplishment of salvation and eternal life through Jesus Christ. It is not that GOD must change; sinners must undergo change (called repentance) that is only accomplished through operations of GOD. The truth never changes, however, for created beings and living creatures, acceptance, discernment, obedience, and understanding of truth may change. GOD is a living entity whose makeup is entirely of spirit matter that cannot be apprehended and known by created beings and living creatures as they rely upon material and physical objects, or repetitive natural processes not having awareness that is focused and shaped to continuously acknowledge spirit substance. The active presence of GOD is revealed and shown through sacred events and operations carried out using appearances of divinity as an incarnate, sovereign agent (we say, Jesus, the Son of GOD), and a dynamic essence (we say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth). As eternal, fixed, and permanent truth, the revelation of GOD is immutable, and will not change. Saying this another way: GOD’s will, and GOD’s way are complete, established, and finished. For the earth, there are yet things proclaimed, promised, and prophesied that have not come to pass, that are now going forward in the continual process of GOD. Such events as the harvesting of believers from the earth, and the resurrection of the wicked for judgment will certainly take the nonbeliever to “new heights.” However, those elements go beyond salvation of sinners, and speak to concluding and resolving the full mystery of GOD. Salvation requires agreement and correspondence of both flesh and spirit, and only results when consciousness and self-will in the living (we say, attention, effort, and willpower) are properly directed to GOD. Consider again Isaiah 55: 6-13, Romans 10: 2-4, and Acts 16: 25-34, King James Version.
THE GOLDEN ARROW: And Samuel did that which the LORD spake, and came to Bethlehem. And the elders of the town trembled at his coming, and said, Comest thou peaceably? And he said, Peaceably: I am come to sacrifice unto the LORD: sanctify yourselves, and come with me to the sacrifice. And he sanctified Jesse and his sons, and called them to the sacrifice. And it came to pass, when they were come, that he looked on Eliab, and said, Surely the LORD’S anointed is before him. But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart. Then Jesse called Abinadab, and made him pass before Samuel. And he said, Neither hath the LORD chosen this. Then Jesse made Shammah to pass by. And he said, Neither hath the LORD chosen this. Again, Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before Samuel. And Samuel said unto Jesse, The LORD hath not chosen these. And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all thy children? And he said, There remaineth yet the youngest, and, behold, he keepeth the sheep. And Samuel said unto Jesse, Send and fetch him: for we will not sit down till he come hither. And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he. Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the Spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah. (1st Samuel 16: 4-13, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: The Right Place to Get Knowledge (02/17/2014); Arguing Against the Bible in Church? (02/18/2014); Lower-case or Capital? (01/31/2014); Sprinkled, Immersed, Named? (02/01/2014); Why Bother to Read? (10/31/2013); GOD Speaking Through Songs? (11/01/2013); Words Spoken By GOD? (06/05/2013); Teachings on Judgment (06/06/2013); What to Take Literally (03/11/2013); A GOD of War? (03/12/2013)
“brad”, for Christian believers, who have submitted to GOD through baptism (i.e., death of their inborn spirit nature, and rebirth having divine DNA), learning from the Bible requires multiple readings, and many gradual shifts of ones understanding. In this sense, learning Scripture is a lifetime experience like getting to know a totally different language and culture.
The holy writings are themselves spirit matter, and must add to, refresh, and make visible otherwise hidden spirit matter contained within believers. The aspect directed to our intellect is “the tip of the iceberg” so to speak. For we are now vessels containing divinity.
Bible accounts, historical narratives, parables, and proverbs are not anecdotes, fictions or stories intended for amusement and entertainment. When believers use multiple translations and versions of Scripture for their studies, they must be prepared to make determinations of application, meaning, and truth-value on the basis of agreement and consistency with revealed divine operations, eternal purpose, and sacred practice.
Certainly, there is a lot more to be said, correctly applied, thoroughly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, salvation for the living results by interactions of flesh and divine spirit. High things of GOD are displayed and imparted in figures, and terms that may be easily recognized among those upon the earth, no matter what climate, culture, or language group the are in. Common sense, then, is usually enough to clarify and explain many issues; and a reader need only be patient. More difficult obstacles and problems are overcome through continued fellowship with mature believers, further reflection, prayer, and continued study.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ’s, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ’s, even so are we Christ’s. (2nd Corinthians 10: 7, KJV)
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
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