The effects upon the GODhead for the death of Jesus at the cross are considered, today. Also, there is more on our bodies that will be taken into heaven. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Ksh” (Level 5 with 7,888 points, a member since February 25, 2012) posted the following:
What happened to trinity when jesus died for 3 days..?
THE BATTLE AXE: A Perfected Body (03/09/2014)—The body given believers in their resurrection must become as the physical body of Jesus that now is able to exist within all the spheres of divine presence (we say, both heaven and earth). The perfected body must endure over an indefinite period that can not be comprehended using our present frameworks of time and space. The transformation of mankind that occurred through the receipt of carnal knowledge will be surpassed by the transformation that comes through the imparting of divine substance in the same way the baptism of Jesus was surpassed by the transfiguration. Believers will continue to maintain and observe perpetually various memorials and ordinances of acknowledgment and worship to GOD. Access to, and fellowship with GOD will yet be encouraged and enriched through the mediation of Jesus; however, no longer will there be the formal services that pertain to a temple or place of sanctuary. The eternal things for reverence are to be such essentials as blessing, glory, wisdom, honor, thanksgiving, power, and might. See Genesis 3: 22, Psalms 16: 11, Matthew 17: 1-3, Hebrews 10: 14-25, 1st John 2: 16-17, Revelation 7: 11-12 and Revelation 22: 5, KJV.
THE GOLDEN ARROW: These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. (John 17: 1-10, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: GOD is Jesus? (01/13/2014); GOD is Showing You (01/14/2014); Poem for Amiri Baraka (01/15/2014); Why Was A Son Sent? (11/10/2013); Jesus Rose? (11/08/2013); (The Ascension of Christ? (12/19/2012); GOD in Schools? (12/20/2012); How Was GOD Known Before Jesus? (10/06/2012); Jesus, King of Earth? (10/07/2012); A Man in Heaven? (09/23/2012); Aliens? (09/24/2012)
“Ksh”, here are a few points of Christian belief to consider that may help you avoid error and spiritual confusion:
(1.) The resurrection to glory that the Father provided for Jesus was granted before the foundation of the earth, and occurred as a predetermined and necessary sacred event. Both incarnation (birth through flesh), and the completion of mortality (death upon the cross) had place within the full GODhead as a conditional solution, possibility, fixed principals, and eternal purpose.
(2.) The GODhead was not annulled, cancelled, destroyed, or dissolved. Many subtle (we say, barely visible, hidden) divine operations were occurring unseen to created beings and living creatures. Acknowledgements, interaction among the divine persons, and the distinct functions of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were being carried out, all at the same time.
There is a lot more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually understood. (For example (3.) Upon the cross, Jesus became the embodiment of all human sin, and was abominable, detestable, and repulsive. The divine task of reconciliation that was initiated in the Garden of Eden came into its most complete and full expression. The heart of GOD is said to have been broken; and judgment to reveal the righteousness of GOD was to go forth. (Like the betrayal and violation of trust between a father and his son who has hosted a kegger without permission.) Mercy only appears as an aspect of judgment, and should not be confused with compassion (an aspect of love). Rather than bereavement and mourning, focus of the GODhead continued as triumph and victory over death and sin.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
Give glory to the LORD your God, before he cause darkness, and before your feet stumble upon the dark mountains, and, while ye look for light, he turn it into the shadow of death, and make it gross darkness. (Jeremiah 13: 16, KJV)
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
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Monday, March 10, 2014
Sunday, September 16, 2012
(09/16/2012) The Gospel not Logical?
Today, a reader
challenges the logic of a scholar’s take on the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and more
is presented on how many chances we are given for salvation. A “Yahoo! Answers”
writer using ID “Robert” (Level 3 with 1,073 points, a member since March 31,
2012) posted the following:
According to christian scholar?
if i don't believe in jesus death on cross for my sins
i will not be saved
i will go to hellfire
but he says if i believe and even if i commit sins
i will be saved kos jesus already paid for my sins
this does not sounds very logical to me, is this true?
THE BATTLE AXE: Chances for Change (09/15/2012)—After the teachings of the Scriptures, many Christian believers hold that each new day is a new opportunity to come to Christ, to enter into repentance, and to be returned to GOD (e.g., see Lamentations 3: 22-23, Psalm 68: 19 and Proverbs 8: 33-35, KJV). GOD extends opportunities to mankind for salvation on a daily basis (see Jeremiah 7: 25, Acts 2: 47, and Acts 5: 42, KJV). So long as one is alive, a voluntary choice for change may be made (Ezekiel 18: 30-32, KJV). Salvation and the spiritual change, growth and learning that occur are not discrete, one-time events; there must be an ongoing and regular progression experienced as new life (see Romans 7: 6, 2nd Corinthians 5: 17, and Hebrews 3: 12-14, KJV). With the end of mortality, there will be an end of the Temple in the heavens. The holy city, the New Jerusalem, will be set like a jewel within a new heaven and earth; and will be the home of mankind that has received incorruptibility and immortality (see Isaiah 65: 17-19, 2nd Peter 3: 9-14 and Revelation 21, KJV).
THE GOLDEN ARROW: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, (Romans 1: 16-22, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Sin Without Wrongdoing? (08/28/2012); Tests for Origins (08/27/2012); To Be or Not To Be? (08/26/2012); Why No Answer? (08/25/2012)
The things concerning Jesus Christ are profound, and may not be correctly understood without contemplation, reflection, study and extended life experience—all elements associated with academics and scholarly pursuit. In the effort to simplify the Gospel, many offer explanations that are plain and uncomplicated, while others share material that is overly charged with emotion. Given their goals to maintain such values as neutrality, objectivity and professionalism, scholars tend to avoid stating their personal convictions, their heartfelt beliefs in GOD, or their spiritual experiences that derive from the presence of GOD through faith.
Just as sin cannot be eliminated from a person’s life (and our prisons cannot be emptied and shut down) simply on the basis of “common sense,” debate, logic, and reason, the salvation of GOD through Jesus cannot be understood and fully received into a person’s life simply by intellectual exercise (dialogue, research, study). Rightly understood, sin is no material or spirit “thing” that has been created by GOD. Sin has neither “dimension” nor “substance;” yet, sin has “effect”, “direction” and “presence”. Sin may dominate the will of created beings and living creatures; however, sin has no influence upon the will of GOD. Sin opposes the continuing existence of GOD, and all that GOD has Created.
Among many, many things, the Gospel teaches that, through Jesus Christ, mankind receives an added measure of the Spirit of GOD. This imparted, indwelling spirit, transforms human nature, and, releases mankind from sin as a continuing aspect of existence. To actually understand the Gospel, ones spiritual awareness must be reconfigured, and so we say, one must be “born again.”
There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, GOD is a spirit, sin is not. Apart from GOD, created beings and living creatures DO NOT detect sin as something foreign or separate, and destructive of their own being. Therefore, they account all of their own attitudes, behavior and conduct to such elements as appetite, desire, chance, destiny, pride, and self-control. Saying this another way: most of us accept and approve sin believing that we are acting normal, and “just being ourselves.”) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
According to christian scholar?
if i don't believe in jesus death on cross for my sins
i will not be saved
i will go to hellfire
but he says if i believe and even if i commit sins
i will be saved kos jesus already paid for my sins
this does not sounds very logical to me, is this true?
THE BATTLE AXE: Chances for Change (09/15/2012)—After the teachings of the Scriptures, many Christian believers hold that each new day is a new opportunity to come to Christ, to enter into repentance, and to be returned to GOD (e.g., see Lamentations 3: 22-23, Psalm 68: 19 and Proverbs 8: 33-35, KJV). GOD extends opportunities to mankind for salvation on a daily basis (see Jeremiah 7: 25, Acts 2: 47, and Acts 5: 42, KJV). So long as one is alive, a voluntary choice for change may be made (Ezekiel 18: 30-32, KJV). Salvation and the spiritual change, growth and learning that occur are not discrete, one-time events; there must be an ongoing and regular progression experienced as new life (see Romans 7: 6, 2nd Corinthians 5: 17, and Hebrews 3: 12-14, KJV). With the end of mortality, there will be an end of the Temple in the heavens. The holy city, the New Jerusalem, will be set like a jewel within a new heaven and earth; and will be the home of mankind that has received incorruptibility and immortality (see Isaiah 65: 17-19, 2nd Peter 3: 9-14 and Revelation 21, KJV).
THE GOLDEN ARROW: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, (Romans 1: 16-22, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Sin Without Wrongdoing? (08/28/2012); Tests for Origins (08/27/2012); To Be or Not To Be? (08/26/2012); Why No Answer? (08/25/2012)
The things concerning Jesus Christ are profound, and may not be correctly understood without contemplation, reflection, study and extended life experience—all elements associated with academics and scholarly pursuit. In the effort to simplify the Gospel, many offer explanations that are plain and uncomplicated, while others share material that is overly charged with emotion. Given their goals to maintain such values as neutrality, objectivity and professionalism, scholars tend to avoid stating their personal convictions, their heartfelt beliefs in GOD, or their spiritual experiences that derive from the presence of GOD through faith.
Just as sin cannot be eliminated from a person’s life (and our prisons cannot be emptied and shut down) simply on the basis of “common sense,” debate, logic, and reason, the salvation of GOD through Jesus cannot be understood and fully received into a person’s life simply by intellectual exercise (dialogue, research, study). Rightly understood, sin is no material or spirit “thing” that has been created by GOD. Sin has neither “dimension” nor “substance;” yet, sin has “effect”, “direction” and “presence”. Sin may dominate the will of created beings and living creatures; however, sin has no influence upon the will of GOD. Sin opposes the continuing existence of GOD, and all that GOD has Created.
Among many, many things, the Gospel teaches that, through Jesus Christ, mankind receives an added measure of the Spirit of GOD. This imparted, indwelling spirit, transforms human nature, and, releases mankind from sin as a continuing aspect of existence. To actually understand the Gospel, ones spiritual awareness must be reconfigured, and so we say, one must be “born again.”
There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, GOD is a spirit, sin is not. Apart from GOD, created beings and living creatures DO NOT detect sin as something foreign or separate, and destructive of their own being. Therefore, they account all of their own attitudes, behavior and conduct to such elements as appetite, desire, chance, destiny, pride, and self-control. Saying this another way: most of us accept and approve sin believing that we are acting normal, and “just being ourselves.”) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
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