Today, points are shared on mankind’s need for salvation and worship with their gifts from divinity that continue Creation, and shield believers against sin. The three “R’s” must come into view: GOD is being revealed through divine acts that put forth being and existence. Created beings and living creatures endure and complete the terms of their existence within their relationships to GOD as Creator, and also must seek relationship wherein GOD is Savior. Finite awareness and self-will may be dominated by sin; and sin opposes the continued existence of sacred law, the Law Giver, and all that has been provided for divine order of the universe. To accomplish eternal purposes, those turning away from sin to GOD (we say, showing repentance) are equipped by GOD to discern the active presence of Deity as well as to recognize and resist sin. The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “ > ” (Level 7 with 25,893 points, a member since May 07, 2012) posted the following errors:
God did not require prayer, worship, faith, or repentence from Adam and Eve so why do Christians insist these things are important to God?
Christians insist that Adam and Eve are actually the first man and woman and literally walked and talked with God.
If this is true then one would expect that God would not ask more of us than He would ask of Adam and Eve, but this is not the case.
God never asked Adam and Eve to 1) Pray, 2) Worship, 3) have faith, or 4) repent after they committed original sin. Even so many Christians believe that Adam and Eve have seats in Heaven.
Whether or not Adam and Eve are in Heaven or will someday go there the bible certainly does not say that God sent them to Hell.
If we can therefore deduce that God is not going to send Adam and Eve to Hell for not praying, worshiping, having faith, or repenting when they were on earth why should we believe God would send anyone to Hell for not doing those things?
Can we also conclude that prayer, worship, repentence etc., comes from man and not God since God did not require these things of Adam and Eve? God never once asked Adam or Eve to declare how great He is, to say Grace over a meal, or any other prayer for that matter.
Thank you for your kind and learned answers
THE GOLDEN ARROW: Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. (1st John 3: 1-10, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: A Creator No Longer Needed? (02/19/2015); Needs Answered in Christ? (01/07/2015); Why Prophets Were Sent to Israel (11/23/2014); The Need for Prophecy Then and Now (11/24/2014); The Point of Knowledge? (07/06/2014); The Love of GOD (03/03/2013); Our Need for a Son (03/04/2013); Unless You Repent (03/05/2013); What is Worship? (10/18/2010); No Free Will (10/19/2010)
“ > ”, to understand that divinity is continuing its work of Creation, and that judgment and salvation are further aspects of Creation, there are many interconnected and important ideas you will have to consider. For example:
(1.) There are highly visible human needs such as our demands for companionship, food, and shelter that derive from our condition and makeup as mortal beings. In addition to appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, sexual cravings), sensation (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching), the living also display abilities, characteristics and features that are not material, physical or social. We also express and seek to fulfill many needs that are intangible. Included are needs described by our emotional and mental functions (e.g., anger, desire, dreams, fantasy, imagination, recall).
(2.) Through operations of the sacred content received from divinity, Christian believers understand that mankind now has various spiritual needs that are only met through contact and communion with Deity. Because necessary obedience, respect and trust were not continued in the awareness and self-will of the first pair, an unnatural gulf appeared that separated the man and woman from divinity.
(3.) There are many points of information shared through the holy writings that explain many of the measures taken by divinity to recover all created beings and living creatures that had come under the attack of sin (this includes the angels and sacred beasts of heaven). In addition to Sabbath-keeping, exile from Eden, and atonement through blood offered in sacrifice, sacred operations were instituted such as covenants, redemption, rebirth, salvation, and sanctification.
(4.) While Adam lost the sacred gifts that made them fit for direct fellowship and interaction with Deity, the angel posted at the gate to Eden (thought to be the Son before incarnation, and understood as the first spokesperson and prophet to mankind) became a source for sacred knowledge and instruction. Throughout the holy writings, “gathering in the gate” (we say, downtown, in the business district, the gate of the city) is to conduct business and public affairs in the witness of the agents from GOD.
There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended. (Such as (5.) The many “religious” duties and practices that now offend nonbelievers have been granted over the course of thousands of years and thousands of lives in answer to prayer and supplication to GOD. Through faith and other endowments of spirit content from GOD, believers have responded to the divine provisions that will end separation from eternal life, holiness, mercy, and forgiveness.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith and spiritual maturity.
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC
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